I thought that FiveBros was suggesting an "AI generated" tick box which wouldn't affect anything else, but could be used to hang new site features off to help with admin. E.g. adding a new field to specify which AI was used. Sounds like a good idea to me but it would be even easier for mods to insist that AI-generated stuff has certain tags in the tag field. I don't think that those should exclude other tags, because just knowing that it's AI-generated won't help anyone to search for the kind of artwork that they are after, they have to be able to search on the thematic content.
My original post was thinking mainly about rapid submissions, because these new tools will be able to output stuff so fast. However MedicineStorm points out that this is already dealt with.
The boss of one of the company that has released one of the newer tools likes to talk about these being basically "search engines for stuff which could exist, rather than just for stuff that already exists" and that strikes me as an excellent way to think about them. The problems and opportunities that they bring will be just like that. In terms of stuff which is produced from these tools, a site like OGA will then become like a cache or a mirror; in theory you wouldn't need to post the actual artwork, you can just post the search string and the specific tool that you put it into, and then anyone else could retrieve the same artwork - but that would depend on the tool remaining available, which is not guaranteed. So when you hit upon something which you think is exceptionally good whilst playing with the tools, it would make sense to submit a copy here in order to guard against that eventuality.
That leads me to another idea. If AI-generated stuff could be easily retrieved by anybody using the same search string and the same tool, should OGA encourage submitters to include that information with the submission?
I was just reminded of this thread and I noticed that the link to the specific game is still removed. So I hope blue_prawn won't mind if I post it again: https://boticelly.itch.io/no-to-war-in-ukraine
I appreciated blue_prawn's original post and I thought it was respectful and quite well pitched.
I also understand fully Ragnar's concerns. We wouldn't want this forum to descend into angry political tribalism, which can happen very easily in these times.
After six years of being held captive in MedicineStorm's basement, bart reveals that he was looking for someone to take over running the site anyway, and he'd like to extend her an offer. Then he gets up, snaps his zip ties like they were made of wet spaghetti, and Dr Manhattans into the ether. A slight whiff of lavender-scented particle accelerator is left behind in the cellar dungeon.
Oops, I didn't want to know bart's physical location. I had a niggling urge to know why the forum founder is no longer active on it. My question has been answered!
It looks as though OGA already does everything he recommends. An "I agree to auto-upgrade to newer versions of the license" text is right there in the submissions form. I don't know how long it's been there, but if it was there on day 1, then I guess everything on the site could be bumped from CC-BY 3.0 to CC-BY 4.0 at the click of a mouse.
Although, I wonder if sometime there might arise a reason to downgrade a license version or even substitute a whole license. E.g. a new version of a CC licence is released but it has an unfortunate "bug"; or a maliciously crafted licence is released and nobody spots it until it achieves high takeup. "Newer is not always better"... However I guess that would be a much more difficult situation than just bumping a license to a newer version of the same license.
I thought that FiveBros was suggesting an "AI generated" tick box which wouldn't affect anything else, but could be used to hang new site features off to help with admin. E.g. adding a new field to specify which AI was used. Sounds like a good idea to me but it would be even easier for mods to insist that AI-generated stuff has certain tags in the tag field. I don't think that those should exclude other tags, because just knowing that it's AI-generated won't help anyone to search for the kind of artwork that they are after, they have to be able to search on the thematic content.
My original post was thinking mainly about rapid submissions, because these new tools will be able to output stuff so fast. However MedicineStorm points out that this is already dealt with.
The boss of one of the company that has released one of the newer tools likes to talk about these being basically "search engines for stuff which could exist, rather than just for stuff that already exists" and that strikes me as an excellent way to think about them. The problems and opportunities that they bring will be just like that. In terms of stuff which is produced from these tools, a site like OGA will then become like a cache or a mirror; in theory you wouldn't need to post the actual artwork, you can just post the search string and the specific tool that you put it into, and then anyone else could retrieve the same artwork - but that would depend on the tool remaining available, which is not guaranteed. So when you hit upon something which you think is exceptionally good whilst playing with the tools, it would make sense to submit a copy here in order to guard against that eventuality.
That leads me to another idea. If AI-generated stuff could be easily retrieved by anybody using the same search string and the same tool, should OGA encourage submitters to include that information with the submission?
Does anyone know of any games written in javascript, and using HTML5 for graphics, where the source is open and intended to be human-readable?
I was just reminded of this thread and I noticed that the link to the specific game is still removed. So I hope blue_prawn won't mind if I post it again: https://boticelly.itch.io/no-to-war-in-ukraine
I appreciated blue_prawn's original post and I thought it was respectful and quite well pitched.
I also understand fully Ragnar's concerns. We wouldn't want this forum to descend into angry political tribalism, which can happen very easily in these times.
After six years of being held captive in MedicineStorm's basement, bart reveals that he was looking for someone to take over running the site anyway, and he'd like to extend her an offer. Then he gets up, snaps his zip ties like they were made of wet spaghetti, and Dr Manhattans into the ether. A slight whiff of lavender-scented particle accelerator is left behind in the cellar dungeon.
If that were the case, then MedicineStorm has already given Sharm, Redshrike, and Botanic away as being in on it.
Oops, I didn't want to know bart's physical location. I had a niggling urge to know why the forum founder is no longer active on it. My question has been answered!
Reminds me of Lemmings. Looks quite good.
Where do the tiles come from that are used to build the 4th image (the green and purple one)?
It looks as though OGA already does everything he recommends. An "I agree to auto-upgrade to newer versions of the license" text is right there in the submissions form. I don't know how long it's been there, but if it was there on day 1, then I guess everything on the site could be bumped from CC-BY 3.0 to CC-BY 4.0 at the click of a mouse.
Although, I wonder if sometime there might arise a reason to downgrade a license version or even substitute a whole license. E.g. a new version of a CC licence is released but it has an unfortunate "bug"; or a maliciously crafted licence is released and nobody spots it until it achieves high takeup. "Newer is not always better"... However I guess that would be a much more difficult situation than just bumping a license to a newer version of the same license.
@ragnar-random Depends on their level of skill.
You can't have too much accessibility for someone who is just starting out.
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