Hmmmmm..... welll.... that's complicated. Using a openly licensed screenshot for reuse in a games content...
is probably legal? but certainly not ethical. in our case particularly, we won't care.
Obviously our screenshots and such shouldn't be under CCBYSA 3 then, not sure which license to use then?
Here you can see one of the Broforce devs agree that scraping screenshots for reusable content is "certainly not ethical". And wondering if the license they chose is not the one they intended.
Situations like this is why it's always good to ask before uploading art that is not your own. We hold our collection to a higher standard than simply "trust what the license says".
I have been flexible in the past with art that is definitely marked as Public Domain or CC0. I think people who choose those licenses are more aware that their art can be used in any manner possible. But asking is nice, and may help invite another artist to join our community.
Facebook response from Basil (of BROFORCE team), reposted here with permission.
Hi Clint
Thanks so much for this! I did reply to his message which was (in a way) warning me about a few screenshots being on OpenGameArt. I wasn't altogether worried, as anyone could get the same quality, and newer, screenshots from youtube videos or anywhere else.
Great to know you are on top of things and thanks again for getting in touch about it :)
He said they would not have minded, but agreed it seemed unethical. I clarified that we aim to host art that is definitely, enthusiastically intended to be reused in games.
Redshrike I agree with you on that point about ethics and courtesy. I think it's okay for e.g. a beginner making a game to go through Wikipedia for art to use, and that doesn't have to be unethical. That even seems in the spirit of Wikipedia as a learning/knowledge resource.
It's different for us as a community site, where we're offering art guaranteed to have no commercial restrictions.
I sent this message to Free Lives (the BROFORCE developers) on Facebook.
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Someone recently contacted you on FB saying your Wikipedia screenshots were uploaded to OpenGameArt.
I'm a moderator for OpenGameArt -- even if art is CC licensed, it our policy to only offer for download art that the creators INTEND to be reused in other games.
I made a moderator decision that scraping Wikipedia articles for "Free" game art is unethical and not what OpenGameArt is about.
I have removed his submission of BROFORCE material from our site.
If you are ever interested in sharing your art specifically for use in other games, do let us know. But I'm going to assume that Wikipedia is not an acceptable place for our users to plunder art.
From Ruan Rothmann on Twitter, one of the Broforce team.
Here you can see one of the Broforce devs agree that scraping screenshots for reusable content is "certainly not ethical". And wondering if the license they chose is not the one they intended.
Situations like this is why it's always good to ask before uploading art that is not your own. We hold our collection to a higher standard than simply "trust what the license says".
I have been flexible in the past with art that is definitely marked as Public Domain or CC0. I think people who choose those licenses are more aware that their art can be used in any manner possible. But asking is nice, and may help invite another artist to join our community.
Rainbow Design: I added links between the two comments so that my message and their response are easier to find.
Facebook response from Basil (of BROFORCE team), reposted here with permission.
My original message is above
License cleared, thanks for helping us MobileGameGraphics!
Fantastic theme for Klotski! I really like how these are done.
I had this twitter conversation with one of the BroForce creators.
https://twitter.com/clintbellanger/status/611225375708987392
He said they would not have minded, but agreed it seemed unethical. I clarified that we aim to host art that is definitely, enthusiastically intended to be reused in games.
Redshrike I agree with you on that point about ethics and courtesy. I think it's okay for e.g. a beginner making a game to go through Wikipedia for art to use, and that doesn't have to be unethical. That even seems in the spirit of Wikipedia as a learning/knowledge resource.
It's different for us as a community site, where we're offering art guaranteed to have no commercial restrictions.
Thanks! I've cleared this for download again.
This thread went nowhere useful, and fast.
Locking the thread from new comments.
I sent this message to Free Lives (the BROFORCE developers) on Facebook.
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