Any admins want to comment on pushing the big scary red button or posting an update of some kind to the front page?
Tuesday, July 5, 2016 - 19:58
> "its Barts site" and they do not want to over step there boundarys
I totally get being anxious about doing things without bart's direct approval, but I would be amazed if he was upset by someone else posting an update to the front page or pressing the big red button to fix search. Yes the site is his baby, but I don't think he feels possesive of it in that way. By contrast, I think he might appreciate the help and moreover, be thrilled to find that the community he's put so much time and effort into creating here has been able to continue and flourish even through times in which he has not been able to directly care for it himself.
To put some scope on that, I think a dramatic re-write of the code base or overhaul of the site would be over stepping. But just trying some posts letting people know what was going on with the site or rebuilding the search index, I just can't see him being upset by that, especially if it was done by one of the long time admins that have themselves put alot of time and effort into the site over the years.
Regarding search and the big red button, here is clint.bellanger describing the button:
@chasersgaming: I don't know how to say this without sounding confrontational, so please just understand that I don't mean it to sound that way,! However, I do think it merits pointing out that even as an artist who just likes to post work the site is currently not working for you. Search is broken, everything you've posted since January is not showing up in search results (and I checked, you've posted alot of great stuff since then! ;) That means no one will find the work, if your intent is to share it with others, that stinks! :(
@Joth: since the topic has been raised.... Don't forget to check into the OGA-BY license. It's basically CC-BY without the anti-DRM stuff so it could a good fit for you depending on what you are looking for in a license for your work.
Also, speaking of Kenny, one of his sets, can't recall which one off the top of my head, has a great example of a bunch of tunes that are all distinct styles but some how march up well enough to all exist in the same project. Only downside is they are all very short loops so they can get repetitive very quickly. Still worth looking into if you'd like an example.
Sunday, July 3, 2016 - 06:57
Re: search IIRC last time bart fixed the issue (at least temporarily) by pressing a big red 'rebuild search index' (or something like that) button in the admin pages. Even if that's a temporary fix that just updates the search db one time, I think it's probably woth doing to at least add the last 4 months of submissions to the search db.
Thursday, June 30, 2016 - 13:00
Didn't mean to imply or assume that no one is working on anything for the site. I do have some appreciation for how large and complex the code and server setup for the site must be. And I fully understand how changes can take a long time to complete and vet, and why it might be best to limit the number of active developers.
However, all that said, search has been broken for far too long, I think it'd very hard to argue that the current situation is working and/or healthy for the long term.
Thursday, June 30, 2016 - 12:39
My two thoughts on the music on this site:
1) it's always nice to have more sets or collections of songs that express different moods and tempos but use similar production, instrumentation or styles. It typically takes alot more than 1 song to make a game, and it can be hard to find several songs on OGA that fit the tempos/moods you need and also sound similar enough to fit together in the same game without being jarring.
2) We could always use more songs that start quicker. There are a lot of great tunes on OGA that simply take too long to get going to really be useful for most game situations.
To be clear though, I'm not complaining, there is a metric ton of fantastic music in OGA! The site has actually become my go to place to look for new music. I've even got a usb stick full of OGA music that I listen driving around in my car.
Getting updates from that thread is partly what drove me to start this one. Even though I know the two issues are unrelated, it's just too sad to see spam on the thread about fixing a spam problem. :(
Any admins want to comment on pushing the big scary red button or posting an update of some kind to the front page?
> "its Barts site" and they do not want to over step there boundarys
I totally get being anxious about doing things without bart's direct approval, but I would be amazed if he was upset by someone else posting an update to the front page or pressing the big red button to fix search. Yes the site is his baby, but I don't think he feels possesive of it in that way. By contrast, I think he might appreciate the help and moreover, be thrilled to find that the community he's put so much time and effort into creating here has been able to continue and flourish even through times in which he has not been able to directly care for it himself.
To put some scope on that, I think a dramatic re-write of the code base or overhaul of the site would be over stepping. But just trying some posts letting people know what was going on with the site or rebuilding the search index, I just can't see him being upset by that, especially if it was done by one of the long time admins that have themselves put alot of time and effort into the site over the years.
Regarding search and the big red button, here is clint.bellanger describing the button:
http://opengameart.org/forumtopic/search-cannot-find-recent-art#comment-...
and bart confirming that he did indeed press the button to fix the search issue last time around:
http://opengameart.org/comment/42085#comment-42085
@chasersgaming: I don't know how to say this without sounding confrontational, so please just understand that I don't mean it to sound that way,! However, I do think it merits pointing out that even as an artist who just likes to post work the site is currently not working for you. Search is broken, everything you've posted since January is not showing up in search results (and I checked, you've posted alot of great stuff since then! ;) That means no one will find the work, if your intent is to share it with others, that stinks! :(
'Lights are on but nobody's home'
Really well put, this sums it perfectly.
I second the idea of admins posting regularly to the front page.
Is bart the only one who can do that currently?
Even just a 'nothing new to report' post would be fine. Just a heartbeat and let people know site administration is still alive.
@Joth: since the topic has been raised.... Don't forget to check into the OGA-BY license. It's basically CC-BY without the anti-DRM stuff so it could a good fit for you depending on what you are looking for in a license for your work.
Also, speaking of Kenny, one of his sets, can't recall which one off the top of my head, has a great example of a bunch of tunes that are all distinct styles but some how march up well enough to all exist in the same project. Only downside is they are all very short loops so they can get repetitive very quickly. Still worth looking into if you'd like an example.
Re: search IIRC last time bart fixed the issue (at least temporarily) by pressing a big red 'rebuild search index' (or something like that) button in the admin pages. Even if that's a temporary fix that just updates the search db one time, I think it's probably woth doing to at least add the last 4 months of submissions to the search db.
Didn't mean to imply or assume that no one is working on anything for the site. I do have some appreciation for how large and complex the code and server setup for the site must be. And I fully understand how changes can take a long time to complete and vet, and why it might be best to limit the number of active developers.
However, all that said, search has been broken for far too long, I think it'd very hard to argue that the current situation is working and/or healthy for the long term.
My two thoughts on the music on this site:
1) it's always nice to have more sets or collections of songs that express different moods and tempos but use similar production, instrumentation or styles. It typically takes alot more than 1 song to make a game, and it can be hard to find several songs on OGA that fit the tempos/moods you need and also sound similar enough to fit together in the same game without being jarring.
2) We could always use more songs that start quicker. There are a lot of great tunes on OGA that simply take too long to get going to really be useful for most game situations.
To be clear though, I'm not complaining, there is a metric ton of fantastic music in OGA! The site has actually become my go to place to look for new music. I've even got a usb stick full of OGA music that I listen driving around in my car.
Oh yeah! Embarrassed to admit that I never thought of hitting the 'Report Spam' button!
Will do in the future.
Kinda sad to hear that button is abused even on this site :(
Yeah, I think these examples highlight clint.bellinger's point: if you shrink a high res image of grass it will just devolve into random noise.
@MedicineStorm: Last two posts onthis thread reek of spambottage:
http://opengameart.org/content/found-it
Getting updates from that thread is partly what drove me to start this one. Even though I know the two issues are unrelated, it's just too sad to see spam on the thread about fixing a spam problem. :(
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