leeor_net: CC-By-SA does not only restrict the asset to be used in opensource projects, it also restricts which opensource projects it can be used. An OSS game licensing their assets anything other than CC-By-SA will not be "legally" able to use any CC-By-SA art. Unless someone can clearly states for the -SA requirement, game is considered as a collection rather than derivative work, it will stay this way.
@Botanic: I understood that, I was using it as an example. After all government logos and symbols are not copyrighted or trademarked. They are governed by other rules. In our country, using a governmental symbol creating a confusion is judged as fraud and is a criminal offense.
@bart: using redcross on ambulance is the only case its allowed to use, or also on an hospital, a properly designed first aid kit, etc... These usages cannot be disallowed since its depicting the real use of the logo. Think about making a movie where you have to remove every logo in it. The argument is against using it as hp symbol, where its an incorrect use and still causes confusion (people will understand that its redcross symbol).
@bart: simplicity of a trademark does not make it less protectable. It is for sure not copyrightable, like 90% of company logos, but if its a trademark and used in context without its primary meaning (ie. a ketchup on a table or a redcross on an ambulance) while creating a confusion with the original, its a trademark violation. Trademark laws are significantly different than copyright rules.
@cboyden: the license he agreed to distribute that art is CC-By, OGA forces him to accept that license and if memory serves, CC-By is irrevokable. Having him right to post those graphics is something else and might need checking.
@Botanic: you are right about the gray area. I guess to make it more appropriate we could ask author to dismantle the scene and post separate buildings and background.
@CodeAndReload: please read the ending remarks, how judges exculeed one of the important steps in the judgement. However, on the other hand, defendants never tried to prove that the copied sections are not protectable. From the Wiki:
While it is appropriate to look at both protectible and unprotectible elements of a work to determine whether copying has occurred, only the protectible elements are relevant when it comes to determining improper appropriation. The Steinberg court made no attempt to separate the protectable and unprotectable elements of Steinberg's drawing.
@Botanic: there is no identifiable feature of HOMM in the submission. Therefore, I assume its cat-3 rather than 4.
Also, can you tell me how many times have you seen a town center along with some peasants and a barracks?
I defend the use of the resource because I feel like copyright laws are overused and getting in away. Most people want to be on the safe side and withdraw. Notice that most of the copyright cases which does not include real offenders (like direct copies) ends in the favor of defendant. This is the direct cause that the copyright does not cover many aspects of a creative work. Like layouts, ideas, combinations.
leeor_net: CC-By-SA does not only restrict the asset to be used in opensource projects, it also restricts which opensource projects it can be used. An OSS game licensing their assets anything other than CC-By-SA will not be "legally" able to use any CC-By-SA art. Unless someone can clearly states for the -SA requirement, game is considered as a collection rather than derivative work, it will stay this way.
Good job on the new system and yay for weeky challenges. I guess my recent knowledge on Blender fire/smoke system will come handy
@Botanic: I understood that, I was using it as an example. After all government logos and symbols are not copyrighted or trademarked. They are governed by other rules. In our country, using a governmental symbol creating a confusion is judged as fraud and is a criminal offense.
@bart: using redcross on ambulance is the only case its allowed to use, or also on an hospital, a properly designed first aid kit, etc... These usages cannot be disallowed since its depicting the real use of the logo. Think about making a movie where you have to remove every logo in it. The argument is against using it as hp symbol, where its an incorrect use and still causes confusion (people will understand that its redcross symbol).
You can remove the texture and give the link for those who want to have the same output.
@bart: simplicity of a trademark does not make it less protectable. It is for sure not copyrightable, like 90% of company logos, but if its a trademark and used in context without its primary meaning (ie. a ketchup on a table or a redcross on an ambulance) while creating a confusion with the original, its a trademark violation. Trademark laws are significantly different than copyright rules.
@cboyden: the license he agreed to distribute that art is CC-By, OGA forces him to accept that license and if memory serves, CC-By is irrevokable. Having him right to post those graphics is something else and might need checking.
@Botanic: you are right about the gray area. I guess to make it more appropriate we could ask author to dismantle the scene and post separate buildings and background.
@CodeAndReload: please read the ending remarks, how judges exculeed one of the important steps in the judgement. However, on the other hand, defendants never tried to prove that the copied sections are not protectable. From the Wiki:
@Botanic: there is no identifiable feature of HOMM in the submission. Therefore, I assume its cat-3 rather than 4.
Also, can you tell me how many times have you seen a town center along with some peasants and a barracks?
I defend the use of the resource because I feel like copyright laws are overused and getting in away. Most people want to be on the safe side and withdraw. Notice that most of the copyright cases which does not include real offenders (like direct copies) ends in the favor of defendant. This is the direct cause that the copyright does not cover many aspects of a creative work. Like layouts, ideas, combinations.
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