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http://opengameart.org/users/mikeeusa You are not authorized to access this page. 100+ assets. Can't look at them, just get a blocked page.
This website's content is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.
Our main contributor has now been blocked from this website:
http://opengameart.org/users/mikeeusa
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Should we be considering a lawsuit?
Crack open the casebooks? See what might be of use?
Deny someone the ability to showcase and upload new open works because of an argument on the forum?
It seems like a statement is being made.
A statement of unworthiness, that Mr MikeeUSA is worth less, unworthy, undesirable, of being a never-do-well, regardless of actual output of works.
Sounds like perhaps... libel?
See http://opengameart.org/forumtopic/chaosesque-anthology-opensourcefree-fp...
--Medicine Storm@MedicineStorm
So you ban someone from contributing and show-casing libre assets and block their portfolio because you don't want them talking on the forum section of the website..
MedicineStorm: Perhaps Mr. MikeeUSA passed the Bar Examination not a great deal long ago. Perhaps We'll be filing a lawsuit for libel (and maybe other things) against you and this website. Think real hard before you press the ban button: there may very well be repercussions for you and those here.
PS: Thank you for your admission.
I have to admit not having access to his previous work on OGA is a lossBut you can still upload his work on his behalf to this site or he can upload himself to some other site.
The ban is only effective on this site. No one can ban him from contributing or showcasing in general.
chaosesqueteam: are you actually Donald Trump? You sound very much like Donald Trump.
What are right-wing extremists even doing on site that's all about freedom, openness and sharing?
Red warrior needs caffeine badly.
@ surt
I thought social and political commentary wasn't allowed. Or is it just not allowed when you perceive it to be contrary to your own beliefs? As for the Trump slam etc. :
"
Disagreeing with others is fine. Being disrespectful is not. Ad Hominem attacks are not ok. Hateful slurs (obfuscated or otherwise) are not ok. Being religious or political is fine, but not here. It is explicitly disallowed on OGA. Bringing religion or politics into the discussion is not ok.
"
from the wit and wisdom of MedicineStorm.
This is exactly the bullshit that shouldn't be here surt. This site is about game art, not Donald Trump, you're as bad as he was. Take that shit elsewhere.
Don't like what someone says on the forum, "Solution": ban their whole account, prevent them from contributing more opensource works.
Is that something a reasonable man would do? No. A reasonable man might ban the person from the forum, but would not lock their portfolio and would not work to prevent them from contributing new content.
Over 100 opensource works counts for nothing here.
The fact of the matter is: if you do not restore MikeeUSA's portfolio and his ability to contribute new opensource works we will explore our legal options.
Ever heard of Consequential Damages. Get familiar.
Dear everyone who's quick to threated lawsuits: kindly remember that you're not in a public space here. You're in somebody's backyard -- on private property -- and the hosts have every right to shut you up, or kick you out if you won't comply. You can then exercise your freedom of speech (which remains intact) somewhere else.
Learn what those three words mean, already.
P.S. Never mind that by threatening a lawsuit you've just forfeited any amount of sympathy people might have shown you. Enjoy.
MikeeUSA account was banned for continued rule breaking.its that simple guys, he was warned on more than one occasion. It's a shame that his work is now blocked, but that is just the way it is.
Chasersgaming | Support | Monstropolis |
"I have to admit not having access to his previous work on OGA is a loss"
Just to clarify, his uploaded works on OGA are still available (and I agree they should be), and still show up in searches. It's the account pages which can no longer be viewed.
We are looking at suing for consequential damages resulting from lost future wages and lost opportunities, in addition to libel, amongst other things, at this point.
@claudeb We will see what a Judge thinks. You might be surprised. The analogies you convince yourself in your head do not always work in court. For instance you can libel someone on private property, in your own home, from you to a friend... and you're still accountable for libel. Did you know that, claudebe?
The fact of the matter is Mr MikeeUSA now suffers because MedicineStorm and perhaps others at this website (we will find out during discovery) have blocked access to his portfolio.
Was it reasonable for them to do so because they did not like what he said on some other portion of the website in no way connected to the portfolio section of this website? We do not think a Judge will find these actions of MedicineStorm and others the acts of a reasonable man.
There may be many thousands of dollars in lost potential wages that Mr MikeeUSA would have gained had the unreasonable act of blocking his portfolio not been taken. To be made whole Mr MikeeUSA must be awarded these lost earnings. That is a recovery from but one of our arguments.
We may be willing to overlook all this if you would simply unblock Mr MikeeUSA's portfolio and allow him to continue to post new works. If you want to keep him banned from the forum, that could be what a reasonable man might do, but continue to block his portfolio and you may be retaining a lawyer to defend against these claims soon enough.
I don't see how you can sue OGA for any liabilities, or for loss of earnings, it's nothing more then a platform for sharing art, and if you get clients from it then that's great, but in no way should it be perceived as a guaranteed income or relied upon as such. Technically what your saying is if Bart was to take down the site for his own reasons, you would sue him for doing so? It' seems a little bit out there.
also again, MikeUSA account was blocked because his frequent abuse of the RULES set out here, and if those rules are broken then admin are I titled to take action on regards to the offence, I'm sure the judge would see that too.
i think maybe it's best for MikeUSA and OGA to determine what action To take and maybe he can resolve the issue with OGA and come to a better understanding, I can appreciate your frustration with him being a great contributer to your project, but you should leave it for them to sort out.
as mentioned above that his portfolio can still be seen within the search.
lets hope that it can be solved amacably.
Chasersgaming | Support | Monstropolis |
Tell me again how blocking someone on a discussion forum for breaking the rules of that forum is in any way "libel". Tell me again how the use of a FREE service, WITHOUT signing a contract, was in any way supposed to guarantee wages and opportunities. Your threats don't hold water, and you're digging yourself deeper with every post.
(Incidentally, now we know why every single free software license out there, with the exception of two or three joke licenses, have a clause saying in essence, "you don't get to sue the author of this software for any reason". Oh well.)
@chasersgaming
We are more than willing to bring a case of first impression in this area.
"also again, MikeUSA account was blocked because his frequent abuse of the RULES set out here,"
Mr MikeeUSA submitted his own libre content to the portfolio division of this platform, well over 100 pieces. MedicineStorm even said he was a "fan".
Mr MikeeUSA also engaged in some banter with other Xonotic contributors (as is their mutual tradition for much of the last decade) on the ChaosEsqueAnthology release thread on the Forum section of this platform.
For that he was banned from both the ancillary forum section of the platform, but additionally from the main portfolio and open-content section of the platform.
Thus now when people click on MikeeUSA's name, or search for it, they are met with nothing: as if he has created no works. Additionally he may not release new works on the platform.
Similar platforms, even if they prevent someone from talking on the forum section, do not deep-6 their contributions, void their portfolio, or take any other unreasonable hostile actions.
@claudeb
A number of statements and actions were taken to shine a false light on Mr MikeeUSA (another tort separate from libel) and to damage his character and reputation as an opensource contributor, in addition to untrue disparaging statements and conjectures made of Mr MikeeUSA.
Currently the avenues we are exploring are: libel, false light, loss of future earnings, loss of earnings potential, loss of future business profits, loss of opportunity, and intentional interferance in a business relationship.
The statute of limitations is several years in the jurisdiction in-which this website is registered to, so we have time to explore all avenues of recovery.
If the parties on the other side believe that "punishing" a person of whom's words you disagree with by removing their portfolio and preventing any future contribution is the act of a reasonable man, perhaps after potentially protracted litigation you may be able to convince a court of your view. We do not share your enthusiasm on that issue, however.
I would like to inform all here that since you have been informed of possible legal action that any alteration or destruction of potential discoverable facts or statements will be seen by the court as destruction of evidence and the intentional perversion of the course of justice.
There is no business relationship where no contract has been signed. There is no obligation for OGA to even provide a platform for such relationships. And I'm pretty sure being informed of possible legal action means just that, and has no legal weight.
Your escalating threats achieve nothing except paint you in an increasingly worse light. Are you sure it's wise to continue?
Im pretty sure that OGA reserve the right to takedown, remove, block, delete or any sort of action at its own discretion if it feels that rules are broken or certain behavior warrants it.
We understand this when we upload and use the site in general, if we didn't agree then we wouldn't/shouldn't use it.
should we not comply with the rules then we have to accept the concequence's or 'punishment' as you want to call it.
Warnings were made and ignored, so is that really the fault of OGA?
scenerio:
policeman stops me for speeding and warns me that if i do it again i will get a ticket. i ignore them carry on speeding. i get caught again, i get a ticket, by getting a ticket i also get a fine, and 3 points on my license, and now my car insurance has gone up because of the 3 points i now have.i cant afford to drive now, so i cant get to work. im going to lose money.
Should i sue the police force? i think i might get laughed at if i tried, i was warned and broke the rules.
Chasersgaming | Support | Monstropolis |
@claudeb
"There is no business relationship where no contract has been signed."
Failure on a basic point of law. Contracts do not require a signature unless a lack of one would violate the statute of frauds. Perhaps you should invest many thousands of dollars, enter law school, study, and get back to us on your legal theories once you have passed the proper exams.
Tortious interference with a business relationship refers to when a third party interferes with the business relationship between two other parties. In this fact pattern the interference would be the closing of the portfolio page, which the two parties relied upon. A closure that a court may not find are the actions of a reasonable man.
So you got a very basic point of law wrong, @claudeb, come back here when you have studied law for years, until then perhaps spare us opinion from the laity.
You may claim that everything that has been done here is good and reasonable and are as of right, but the facts belie a different reality:
Mr MikeeUSA said things on a forum which someone disagreed with.
Mr MikeeUSA's portfolio is blocked and he is banned from contributing anything more.
Many alternative solutions are used by others in the same industry. You here have chosen instead to lash out and "punish" Mr MikeeUSA by attacking his work and masking from the public his position as an extensive opensource contributor, modeler, musician, etc; thus damaging his reputation, intentionally.
Now this is before we get into the issue of what MedicineStorm is and the liability that thus attaches to his superiors for his actions. An employee? And Independent Contractor? An agent? Nothing? You never even mention these issues, this shows us your level of cognition of legal principals.
@chasersgaming
"i now have.i cant afford to drive now, so i cant get to work. im going to lose money."
"Should i sue the police force? i think i might get laughed at if i tried, i was warned and broke the rules."
The courts certainly consider necessity as counter arguments to the rescission of a automobile license. Your analogy holds no water, however, since you are citing criminal law and we are citing civil law. The standards of evidence are different, the requirements of the juries are different, the requirements for a finding upon the evidence are different.
Additionally clients bring suit against local police departments constantly for exactly what you describe, with varying results. Please browse some cases next time.
He can't sue anyone for being blocked on any site. Otherwise nobody would ever be allowed to block anyone regardless of reason. That's just ignorant. Really, any website or business can block anyone for no reason at all if they want. This is pretty basic law here.
Threatening a lawsuit over this just makes him look like a really ignorant bully.
He has no case against OGA. None. And if he tries to take it to court, *I* will pay any legal costs to defend against this nuisance lawsuit. All of it. Even fine if it comes to it, but it never ever would. He can't touch OGA at all. Consider it my gift to OGA for a specific purpose (didn't like the freefloating Patreon pledge, but this is much better). Not that this guy really will. He could buy himself a clue if he had two nickels to rub together. He doesn't.
So feel free to block this guy too, if you want to. This is probably just MikeeUSA on another name anyway. Or keep him around for our amusement if you want. He's throwing legal terms around and demonstrating just how much he doesn't understand about anything with every post. He's funny, and now totally impotent even with his baseless threats, and everyone can see it.
Ok, I see your point about civil an criminal law, perhaps you can direct me to case that best describes your case here?
what about this analogy?
i place an add in a freeadd news paper, and get a revenue from it, then the editor decides he/she doesnt want to advertise in the paper anymore, can you sue for that?
Chasersgaming | Support | Monstropolis |
I understand wanting to get his side, but it's unnecessary, really. If he had a legal argument to stand on he would actually sue, for all the good it would do him. He can't get OGA any which way. So everyone can just ignore him.
@dannorder What Law School did you graduate from? When we win the suit, we'll start another one against you for your untrue disparaging remarks aswell. You may be shelling out quite a pretty penny to defend MedicineStorm (though to construe your words exactly; you only made a promise to defend OGA...). Are you ready for discovery?
Ever heard of a case of first impression? No? Looking it up now?
@chasersgaming if you are an agent for an entity and you libel a third party, cast him in a bad light, and then turn around and say "well I did it for free!", this will not reduce the recovery.
@all/misc
The fact of the matter is that OGA exists to entice others to release their works under libre licenses. OGA's part of the bargain is that it will host files and present them in a portfolio format. Not a very difficult affair. Contributors part of the bargain is that they will effectively forgo the profits realizable under proprietary licensing and instead license their own works under one of the selectable opensource licenses.
Here OGA accepted the copyrighted works and the actual content creator, who does far more work in creating the corpus of the transaction, released them under a special licensing agreement.
For some time OGA upheld its part of the bargain, which, the content creator relied upon.
Later MedicineStorm, an agent or employee of OGA, disliked what the content creator said, so he reneged on the deal and removed the portfolio.
The content creator already paid to OGA: many hours of free labour, and effectively the right to make profit off of the work. OGA and its downstream recieved the fruits of content creators labour at minimal to no cost.
What detriment has OGA suffered on it's part: it hosted the solicited works a detriment of some bytes here and there in exchange for labour intensive copyrighted works licensed out under the desired licenses of the website owner.
What detriment has Content Creator suffered on it's part: lost labor and lost profits, in exchange for a portfolio page.
Now that portfolio page has been removed, as punishment against Content Creator's speech on a forum.
Will a court find this a reasonable transaction?
Still think we don't have a case?
Better retain council at a fixed rate.
Reminds me of the time I've been threatened by an actual, practicing lawyer who actually had a pretty solid claim for a change. Turns out, it wasn't solid enough for a lawsuit. Even a practicing lawyer can get this stuff wrong. Have you studied law? Because my bet is that you're just trying to frighten people with big words.
Well, two can play this game. Did you know that threatening people is a crime? It only takes a few complaints to trigger a police investigation. And every new threat you utter here is one more piece of evidence against you. Evidence that, rest assured, the mods will be all too happy to preserve for the authorities.
I'm no frail little kid in a schoolyard. Think better.
I was going to ask why this person is so keen to defend someone who was banned. So much for being rethorical.
No no, I'll stop feeding the troll. Sorry, it's just that I have a problem with threats and react very badly to them. Also, I didn't want to let it pass. Speaking up for OGA is the least I can do.
Apparently MikeeUSA/chaosesqueteam gets up to enough of these antics for the first google result to be a page dedicated to him: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/MikeeUSA
Red warrior needs caffeine badly.
OGA does not "entice" others to use libre licenses, OGA did not find you, you find OGA. OGA doesn't force you to spend hours creating works and uploading to its servers in exchange for a portfolio, you choose to for your own reasons, OGA makes no promises to you as a user, only that if you use it then you agree to follow the rules.
the user has portrayed himself in bad light, he was not banned because his comments were disliked by someone, he was banned for making comments that were against the rules, and continued to make comments against the rules, even after several warnings. The actions taken by medicinestorm were forthcoming with that continued rule breaking, and all those comments will be documented/archived, these documents would actually strengthen his action, and could be seen as 'protecting' the user from any more bad light, so an answer to your question about "is this the action of a reasonable man?" Yes, I believe it is, and I think others on here will think so too, OGA has been more than reasonable.
Chasersgaming | Support | Monstropolis |
Ha ha, good catch, surt! Thanks for doing the leg work. I shared that page on Twitter. Going to look at the rest of the wiki, too, because I didn't know it existed and it looks interesting.
Aren't chaosesqueteam and MikeeUSA one and the same person? Having multiple accounts and act like multiple people does not make one very credible, just saying.
@claudeb
"Have you studied law?"
Yes
"Well, two can play this game. Did you know that threatening people is a crime?"
Threatening legal action is not a crime.
"It only takes a few complaints to trigger a police investigation. And every new threat you utter here is one more piece of evidence against you. Evidence that, rest assured, the mods will be all too happy to preserve for the authorities."
Threatening legal action is not a crime.
Get back to me after you've educated yourself.
" Or keep him around for our amusement if you want."
"No no, I'll stop feeding the troll. Sorry, it's just that I have a problem with threats and react very badly to them. Also, I didn't want to let it pass. Speaking up for OGA is the least I can do."
Yea, because someone with well over 100 contributions: 3d models, music, textures, you name it, is a "Troll" and the aggressor here, while people who took down the person's portfolio due to disliking the person's speech are amongst the angels and saints. Yea, the person who does the work is the retarded little dog you may or may not choose to "keep around for one's amusement". The way you treat your contributors is disgusting, based on the amount of work they do vs the amount of work the other side does, on a per submission basis.
Keep it up. Keep it up. We will be glad to show your opinions to the court.
@chasersgaming
We will see what a court has to say about that.
I outlined the benifits and losses on each side of the transaction.
There is evidence enough of unfair dealing.
OGA very much does both entice and solicit contributions under the licenses it desires for media to be placed under.
There is a benifit and a detriment on both sides.
"OGA doesn't force you to ..."
Slavery has been illegal for quite some time, what is your point? Do you have one?
Oh, come on. The game is up. You've been found out. And right now you're making yourself guilty of circumventing a ban. Which also happens to be a crime: unauthorized access to a computer system, it's called. Look it up.
(And yes, threatening people with anything in an attempt to intimidate them is a crime. Look that one up, too.)
Briefly put, you're in heaps of trouble. We know who you are, we know what you're up to, and you're not getting your way. But you are inviting harsher measures against you, both here and elsewhere, with each new batch of incoherent threats. Enjoy, I guess.
@claudeb
"(And yes, threatening people with anything in an attempt to intimidate them is a crime. Look that one up, too.)"
Threatening legal action is not a crime. Negotiation for a settlement is not a crime. Please enroll in some courses and learn a thing or two before speaking again.
Have you noticed how nobody here believes for a moment that you have a law degree? For one thing, if you did, you'd probably know when to stop making things worse for yourself. It would also be no guarantee that you have a case at all, as I already pointed out. Oh, and you can't negotiate a settlement before you at least get to see a judge. Right now, what you're doing only counts as bullying, intimidation and threats, all of which can only get you into hot water, not us.
Yes let's see what they say.
the common sense in me says not its nothing More than a temper tantrum and really don't see your argument about loss of earnings or being shown in a bad light,it wouldn't wash hear in the UK.
if You was as educated as you think you are in law and civil courts then for me to take you serouisly I would expect you to behave in a professional manner in tune with how a lawyer would conduct themselves when planning on taking anyone to court. Make your statement, then say no more.
i will watch this thread and see what aspires. I will go on record here and say that I fully support Medicinestorms decision to ban a member for constant rule breaking.
Chasersgaming | Support | Monstropolis |
Can we just get rid of this guy (again) plz, he is giving the site a bad vibe...
Stay a while and listen.
Chaosesqueteam, sue and shut up, or admit you have no case and shut up. That's it. Otherwise you're just throwing a highly visible temper tantrum here.
A threat to sue without intention to actually do so is an attempt at intimidation. Certainly when you've been warned and continue to do so your intent is clear.
Shutting up woould actually be the smart move. But if you want to continue jabbering and laying out more evidence against you, be my guest. Can't say we didn't try to warn you.
So it doesn't get missed, the page surt points to pretty strongly supports that this is the same guy who just got banned recently (like anyone couldn't tell already). Total ban of this account would work too.
It'd be merciful, really. He's just making a sad public spectacle of himself. It's like a monkey throwing poo at a pane of glass protecting the zoo visitors.
He did not directly ban evade, he used multiple accounts all the time to begin with.
He decided to ban evade when his other account got banned and he just came back on with a puppet account.
Thank you chaosesqueteam, I love it when a moron stirs and makes an ass of themselves. Most, just like you, cannot spell or use correct grammer which makes their claims even more outragious. I love the increasing paranoia and decreasing facts. I have had my fix for the year, next thing is to ban yourself to punish OGA.
@claudeb
"Oh, and you can't negotiate a settlement before you at least get to see a judge"
Yes you can. Negotiations for a settlement can occur at any time before final judgement. We simply ask that OGA restores Mr. MikeeUSA's portfolio page and allow him to continue to publish open works as he has done well over 100 times (can any of you match that volume of work? No you cannot. Kindly cease your posturing).
Additionally the forfeiture of a legal right is sufficient consideration to support an agreement (contract).
"Have you noticed how nobody here believes for a moment that you have a law degree?"
The ignorant do not know what they do not know. There is a reason why it takes three years to complete the coursework and study.
@Tinker
"I love it when a moron stirs"
Not a moron, see: https://lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology , http://www.moddb.com/games/chaosesqueanthology
@dannorder
Kindly keep your ignorance to yourself. We have a couple of years before the statute of limitations run on our claims to gather evidence and prepare our case.
Negotiations for a settlement can happen once there is any kind of ongoing legal action at all. Right now, there's NONE.
Several people on OGA have submitted well in excess of a hundred works. I ran into a couple of them just today. And I haven't caught any of them posturing, ever. That's what you are doing. Your game is an achievement, sure, but hardly unmatched; in fact, first person shooters are a fairly popular genre among hobbyist and indie developers, open source or not. So, good work, but if you're trying to play the special snowflake card, it's not working any better than your legal threats.
Which, by the way, don't even make sense anymore. What legal rights? What forfeiture? What agreement? And if you're going to answer the question at all, keep in mind that you''ve still failed to convince anyone here that you're an adult, much less a lawyer.
@claudeb
"Negotiations for a settlement can happen once there is any kind of ongoing legal action at all. Right now, there's NONE."
Negotiations for a settlement between parties may commence once there is a dispute, formal legal proceedings do not have to take place beforehand, once there is a legal or equitable wrong incurred (oh we didn't talk much about equity yet, did we... the phrase "reasonable man" oft repeated should have tipped you off to that iceberg however). The courts prefer that parties work out their disputes themselves, or barring that (if they are not able to come to an agreement), through binding arbitration. The courts prefer that open litigation be a course of last resort.
You would know this if you had perused a legal career, so please to not presume what you know of not.
"Several people on OGA have submitted well in excess of a hundred works"
None of you here in this thread so-far are amongst those people, so please, place the mantel down: it is not yours to hold. MikeeUSA is amongst those people, however, all his submissions are his own, and yet you, who (if anything) boast only a handful of works give him no respect and demand he be thrown out and kept out... because you don't like his conversational style with his fellow Xonotic developers (why you found yourself fit to interject in their banter and take offense is unknown aswell)
Perhaps you prefer his portfolio be hidden, as it outshines your own by scores of degree?
"Which, by the way, don't even make sense anymore. What legal rights? What forfeiture? "
This was laid out clearly in the preceding entries. It is very clear to anyone with legal experience or even instruction.
But as I said: you do not know what you do not know.
Rereading the entries would probably do you no good, as you have zero bearings to orientate you on the subject, but it can't hurt to reread so go and do so.
"keep in mind that you''ve still failed to convince anyone here that you're an adult, much less a lawyer."
A lay person like yourself, who is completely ignorant of the law, has absolutely no way to judge any of that. You have no idea what I'm talking about in the preceding entries in this thread, so you ignore all that was written. Some of you bring up criminal law in what is obviously a civil matter, others make up analogies that have no legal basis what-so-ever, and none of you seem to understand what a case of first impression in a jurisdiction is even.
"Your game is an achievement, sure, but hardly unmatched; in fact, first person shooters are a fairly popular genre among hobbyist and indie developers, open source or not."
Show me one opensource first person shooter game with:
Over 130 weapons. Medieval, Futuristic, Modern.
Buildable buildings and real time strategy components with full interiors.
City generation (the buildings here also having interiors) a-la sim-city 2000.
Nuclear weapons. Destruction of buildings etc with said Nuclear weapons.
Spells.
Potions.
Jailing.
Torture.
Blinding.
Randomly connected duengon maps.
Foliage system (for automatically placing foliage in the map)
Brawling.
Drunkeness.
Mounted guns, Medieval siege equipment, WWI biplanes monoplanes triplanes and tanks, hovercars, futuristic tanks, futuristic vehicles.
Show me one with all that. (Ofcourse there are more features than just that)
Show me a commercial game with all that.
Just show me one game. You can do it.
...
Better yet: show me yours.
"Similar platforms, even if they prevent someone from talking on the forum section, do not deep-6 their contributions, void their portfolio, or take any other unreasonable hostile actions."
Depends - Sourceforge banned not only MikeeUSA as a user, but took down the projects he had hosted there as a sole contributor ( http://www.whatwillweuse.com/2009/10/13/not-in-my-neighborhood-mikeeusa-... ). I wouldn't advocate removing the art he's submitted on OGA, but it's not true to say that other sites found a way to only ban him from forums. From a technical point of view, if OGA doesn't have the facility to ban a user without keeping the profile visible, it seems unlikely this will be added anytime soon.
"None of you here in this thread so-far are amongst those people, so please, place the mantel down: it is not yours to hold."
If we're arguing who in this thread has submitted the most art (which seems rather irrelevant anyway to the issue): "Art by chaosesqueteam. This user has not submitted any art."
"MikeeUSA is amongst those people"
MikeeUSA isn't in this thread - unless, you're admitting to being him?
@mdwh
MikeeUSA is the main active contributor to ChaosEsqueAnthology. Code, models, maps, you name it. We are advocating for him and against the assault on his character that you people here have wrought.
( Here's what ESR had to say about the sourceforge saga you mentioned: esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1310 )
It is absolutely disgusting that you hold up what a sourceforge admin did years ago against MikeeUSA for the liberal crime of speaking against feminists (who are enemies of the human race and of the european peoples (who are going extinct due to their policies)). It shows exactly what kind of person that you, and many opensource "enthusiasts" are. Exactly.
Obedience to speech codes count for everything in opensource, and contribution counts for nothing.
You are just yet another group of, as MikeeUSA says: ideologues. The contributions (that other people make and you often merely "cheer") are just a foil for you to hide under and pretend to be part of something and thus have social standing and relevance. Here we have people with a handful of contributions (or none) smearing a person with well over 100 contributions on this site alone. You cheer that his portfolio has been taken down, when you have not even approached even a small part of what he has contributed. You weight your discussions and your speech codes at over one hundred times more important than actual contributors.
You allow no dissent, no discussion, no anything that goes against your beliefs.
You call for freespeech, but only for those who are on your cultural side, for those opposed to you you snidely remark "Muh Freeze Peach" (https://twitter.com/freegamer_txt https://twitter.com/Freegamer_txt/status/815389327500816384 )
There is a difference between the past and now. Now Mr MikeeUSA is in a position to sue you, to bring the hurt to you, to exact a remedy for your inequitable treatment of him (and perhaps others like him... class action? I think the new administration, which you and yours in the above comments section make derisive comments towards, might allow it).
Again, dude, prove you know what you're trying to talk about. Sue. Or shut up.
We think you know less than a gnat about anything. We don't want to hear your theory about, well, anything. If you think you're right, then sue. Then we'll have an outside source saying you're ignorant instead of just all of us saying it.
@dannorder
"We think you know less than a gnat about anything."
Lets see your opensource videogame projects, dannorder. Comon. Be forthcoming.
Then we can compare.
As for legal matters: as I explained multiple times: The statute of limitations is several years for these claims. We have time to perfect and submit our arguments. We do not have to run on your scheduel, Mr Dan Norder. Do you understand that. Be mad all you want. We will pay you back seven fold.
Furthermore we will likely be subpoenaing this website for information about all detractors, including you dannorder. We will comb over your utterances for any untrue derisive statements, and we will also submit to the court your current statements about our "ignorance".
We first would like to give OpenGameArt the opportunity to graciously re-activate Mr MikeeUSA's portfolio page and his ability to submit new works, and for OGA to issue a public apology for putting the feelings of liberal anti-speech activists above the works of actual opensource contributors.
Ball's in your court.
Surely it's time to lock this thread. The question of why MikeeUSA's profile was shut down has been answered.
"( Here's what ESR had to say about the sourceforge saga you mentioned: esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1310 )"
For the record, I generally agree with Eric Raymond - that post is about the removal of Sourceforge projects, which isn't relevant here, and as I say, "I wouldn't advocate removing the art he's submitted on OGA".
But ESR isn't objecting to banning people's accounts, as noted in the comments, he reserves the right to ban people on his own blog. Banning the account doesn't remove the content that's been uploaded under that account.
I'm not going to respond to the rant against feminism because it's against the forum rules to discuss politics.
And so we get to the "you can't handle the truth!!!" phase of the farce. I already broke my promise to stop feeding the troll, and I don't resume to tell our moderators what to do, but the above rant against feminism pretty clearly establishes two things:
Show's over. Sorry for not handling this very maturely. But I learned a thing or two, at least. Now, back to making art. :)
It's a well-known fact that people who threaten lawsuits and claim legal knowledge on the internet never file lawsuits and have no legal knowledge.
If quantity of one's work is the only measure of their importance, does that make Uwe Boll a superior director to Stanley Kubrick, or Ed Wood the greatest director of all time? It's possible to be both highly productive and a total hack at the same time, and besides, neither quantity nor quality of your submissions have any bearing on whether your conduct was against this site's rules.
The irony is strong with this one.
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