seems like the scam is mostly being run for stock photos, but i could imagine someone doing this with game art. hire someone to make a bunch of consistently styled sprites and tiles on commission, with the caveat that they are working as your employee and the copyright to the work they produce as part of their job will be automatically transferred to you as part of the contract (par for the course with fiverr, by the way) then upload the lot of it to oga, itch, and other places as CC-BY 3.0 (nothing less than 3 is accepted on oga) then sit back and wait for some tinkerers to make some games with it and hope they attribute wrong. seems unlikely and alot of bother, compared to taking pictures of lasagna and waiting for someone to put it on their blog.
there is a large body of work here that is cc-by 3.0, and many of the authors have allowed it to be upgraded to cc-by 4.0. BUT we can't see that under the current system, one has to contact MedicineStorm and ask her if you can upgrade licenses. a system wide upgrade for everything that was ticked with "The authors of this content agree to license it under later versions of the licenses they selected above." would be feasible i think? then what do we do about all the cc-by 3.0 stuff from 2012 made by some obscure japanese artist whose original webpage exists only on the wayback machine?
i don't know what the answer is. as an aside, the only thing i have on here that is not CC0 is this which inherited CC-BY 3.0 from this. i have no worry that surt is gonna sue me or anyone else over the use of twin dragon's head and the turtle sprite, but if surt checked twin dragons as upgradeable to later version of license, i will update rynosaur to by 4. problem is, this is just one derivative work by one frankenspriter, among thousands of great cc-by 3 artwork made by real artists. how do we fix this? is it even fixable?
again, sounds like a good argument for CC0 to me. attribution is nice, and everyone deserves credit for their work. but i personally would rather my work have more utility and be more free in exchange for not demanding credit.
i lean towards pure coincidence, but only out of feeling, not out of any evidence. it is possible that there is some common inspirational ancestor to both of them? interesting find, without a doubt.
edit: i read the gist of the plot from the wikipedia article, and the "girl gets sucked into her video game world after dying" plot basis is very cool and resonates with me somehow. but anime is not my thing, so i doubt i will ever consume this.
go ahead and lock it MedicineStorm. i see no positive from keeping this thread open.
i am sorry that i told that person to commit suicide. i get passionate in speaking out against what i see as bigoted behavior and language.
just lock it, and let's leave it at that. noone was participating in this challenge anyways. :)
and EDIT: all this was ever meant to be was an open-ended community challenge, intentionally wording it in a way that would both not offend AND welcome any individual person's definition of femaleness. that includes ephesians "biological" definition. i never wanted this to be about policy or the administration of policiy (ie politics) or the relative merits of gender identity / reproductive social roles.
i just wanted to see some kick-butt female protagonists. if i had wanted to edit my original post i would have fixed my typo in the word "sexiist" ;)
i will not post again in this thread if it is left open, nor participate in this now "politicised" discussion.
again i am sorry to have participated in flaming ephesians with invitations for them to commit suicide. that was impolite to say the least, and hateful if taken literally. don't kill yourself ephesians. please stay alive.
Here's another challenge for the community. No timeframe, no winners. Original or derivative, any license.
Create a female main character in any style, genre, etc. It is up to you to determine what "female" means, whether that is reproductive identity, gender identity, feminine physical or character traits, etc. Bonus points (points mean nothing) for non-traditional interpretations. I ask that you please don't use sexiist or exploitative depictions of "femaleness" in your art, but I obviously have no power over you or what you produce.
Tag your submission with "Female Protagonist" and link to your submission in this thread.
Where is the word hero at? Draw as many rocks as you want, give them breasts or whatever you want. I'm done feeding the trolls.
ok, i am sorry. i wasn't trying to fling poo at you but at ephesians. but i did overreact and you got lumped in with them. i can see that you were trying to make a semantic point, i just interpreted that semantic point as being cheeky.
let's just all get along. i am sorry for acting out.
that said, it doesn't change my opinion that ephesians is a misogynist troll. they created an account specifically to make the statement "women can't be heroes" with no context of what they meant. and since the word hero was never mentioned in this thread until then, the only conclusion i can reach is that ephesians is a misogynist troll with hairy fingers.
cool. i saw the nesfeel collection the other day when i was browsin'. i haven't even begun to try anything for this one. so much other stuff i am doing, trying to get as much of oga jam entry done as i can but i am distracted by a million other things at the same time. i spose that's the point of "no winners, no time limit." someone 10 years from now can do a "nesfeel" or "female protagonist". after all, why not?
sounds like a good argument for CC0 to me.
seems like the scam is mostly being run for stock photos, but i could imagine someone doing this with game art. hire someone to make a bunch of consistently styled sprites and tiles on commission, with the caveat that they are working as your employee and the copyright to the work they produce as part of their job will be automatically transferred to you as part of the contract (par for the course with fiverr, by the way) then upload the lot of it to oga, itch, and other places as CC-BY 3.0 (nothing less than 3 is accepted on oga) then sit back and wait for some tinkerers to make some games with it and hope they attribute wrong. seems unlikely and alot of bother, compared to taking pictures of lasagna and waiting for someone to put it on their blog.
there is a large body of work here that is cc-by 3.0, and many of the authors have allowed it to be upgraded to cc-by 4.0. BUT we can't see that under the current system, one has to contact MedicineStorm and ask her if you can upgrade licenses. a system wide upgrade for everything that was ticked with "The authors of this content agree to license it under later versions of the licenses they selected above." would be feasible i think? then what do we do about all the cc-by 3.0 stuff from 2012 made by some obscure japanese artist whose original webpage exists only on the wayback machine?
i don't know what the answer is. as an aside, the only thing i have on here that is not CC0 is this which inherited CC-BY 3.0 from this. i have no worry that surt is gonna sue me or anyone else over the use of twin dragon's head and the turtle sprite, but if surt checked twin dragons as upgradeable to later version of license, i will update rynosaur to by 4. problem is, this is just one derivative work by one frankenspriter, among thousands of great cc-by 3 artwork made by real artists. how do we fix this? is it even fixable?
again, sounds like a good argument for CC0 to me. attribution is nice, and everyone deserves credit for their work. but i personally would rather my work have more utility and be more free in exchange for not demanding credit.
the site is correct. mp3s are the devil.
i lean towards pure coincidence, but only out of feeling, not out of any evidence. it is possible that there is some common inspirational ancestor to both of them? interesting find, without a doubt.
edit: i read the gist of the plot from the wikipedia article, and the "girl gets sucked into her video game world after dying" plot basis is very cool and resonates with me somehow. but anime is not my thing, so i doubt i will ever consume this.
go ahead and lock it MedicineStorm. i see no positive from keeping this thread open.
i am sorry that i told that person to commit suicide. i get passionate in speaking out against what i see as bigoted behavior and language.
just lock it, and let's leave it at that. noone was participating in this challenge anyways. :)
and EDIT: all this was ever meant to be was an open-ended community challenge, intentionally wording it in a way that would both not offend AND welcome any individual person's definition of femaleness. that includes ephesians "biological" definition. i never wanted this to be about policy or the administration of policiy (ie politics) or the relative merits of gender identity / reproductive social roles.
i just wanted to see some kick-butt female protagonists. if i had wanted to edit my original post i would have fixed my typo in the word "sexiist" ;)
i will not post again in this thread if it is left open, nor participate in this now "politicised" discussion.
again i am sorry to have participated in flaming ephesians with invitations for them to commit suicide. that was impolite to say the least, and hateful if taken literally. don't kill yourself ephesians. please stay alive.
ragnar out
This is what i wrote, verbatim:
Here's another challenge for the community. No timeframe, no winners. Original or derivative, any license.
Create a female main character in any style, genre, etc. It is up to you to determine what "female" means, whether that is reproductive identity, gender identity, feminine physical or character traits, etc. Bonus points (points mean nothing) for non-traditional interpretations. I ask that you please don't use sexiist or exploitative depictions of "femaleness" in your art, but I obviously have no power over you or what you produce.
Tag your submission with "Female Protagonist" and link to your submission in this thread.
Where is the word hero at? Draw as many rocks as you want, give them breasts or whatever you want. I'm done feeding the trolls.
ok, i am sorry. i wasn't trying to fling poo at you but at ephesians. but i did overreact and you got lumped in with them. i can see that you were trying to make a semantic point, i just interpreted that semantic point as being cheeky.
let's just all get along. i am sorry for acting out.
that said, it doesn't change my opinion that ephesians is a misogynist troll. they created an account specifically to make the statement "women can't be heroes" with no context of what they meant. and since the word hero was never mentioned in this thread until then, the only conclusion i can reach is that ephesians is a misogynist troll with hairy fingers.
@Ephesians:
if you are just a sexist troll, then feel free to commit suicide.
@zombietom
please tell me where i ever said "female hero" challenge?
i specifically used the gender-neutral word "protagonist" for a reason.
@EveryoneOnPlanetEarth:
Embrace the rainbow. There are lots of people, of different kinds and abilities. Anyone of them could be the protagonist of a story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Five_Rings
sounds like a good deal :p
cool. i saw the nesfeel collection the other day when i was browsin'. i haven't even begun to try anything for this one. so much other stuff i am doing, trying to get as much of oga jam entry done as i can but i am distracted by a million other things at the same time. i spose that's the point of "no winners, no time limit." someone 10 years from now can do a "nesfeel" or "female protagonist". after all, why not?
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