while i agree with your sentiment of hoping that our commrades in eastern europe are ok, this thread is likely to derail into discussion of politics, which is not what oga forums are for.
Bird guy is cool. is he gonna walk like the pterodactyls in jurrasic park? that's the vibe i am getting. i think the scene i am thinking of is from jurassic park 3, like a waddle walk pulling itself forward with the wings. in this case no wings but arms have a wing-y feel
the dolatic dreams submission is clearly public domain everywhere, as it was published before copyright law existed. the old books i am using are clearly public domain for me, but possibly not public domain for everyone....
where does this leave me with licensing my derivatives? i am making what i consider substational modifications that, in my opinion, constitutes an entirely "new" creative work based on art from a copyright-expired book from 1914. am i wrong? not wrong to use it for my game, but wrong to submit my art after the game is done?
and if i cannot submit this artwork because it is derivative of a copyright expired in the u.s. work, would i then be safer to use the maya codices that bzt mentioned earlier as the basis for my derivatives?
the reason i started a different thread is primarily because my use case has nothing to do with government works.
well on that subject, the maya hieroglyphs i derived this from were reproduced in a book published in 1914. and from reading the book it appears the reproductions come not only from codices but from the author's own studies of stelae and maya ruins. from all my research all works published in the united states before 1927 (except sound recordings) are now in the public domain in the u.s. so the reproductions made by morley sylvanus griswold were under his copyright when the book was published in 1914. the copyright was never renewed by his estate. he died in 1948. 1948 + 70 = 2018, so in most places in the world this work would be public domain anyways.
cornell university library says anything published in the u.s. before 1927 is public domain. but world wide the situation is different. however, if a given work was never published in a given country, then the copyright law of that country does or does not apply? i am doubtful that the book was published in afghanistan for instance, though i've not researched publication of this particular work beyond the u.s.
@bzt "Only if you're about to distribute your work outside of the U.S., otherwise it's enough if you only comply with the U.S. law. But in this case you can relax, these are public domain worldwide for sure."
by putting something on the world wide web i am defacto distributing my work world wide, right? i not asking this question to be a contrarian or sarcastic.
since my derivatives come from someone who made reproductions in 1914, and not derivative of aforementioned codices, i am beholden to the copyright of the book containing the reproductions published 1914. i am safe in the u.s. for sure, but i still have doubts about my rights in regards to "world wide" distribution.
@bzt "But in this case you can relax, these are public domain worldwide for sure."
i didn't mean to be a jerk. sorry if i came off that way.
while i agree with your sentiment of hoping that our commrades in eastern europe are ok, this thread is likely to derail into discussion of politics, which is not what oga forums are for.
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Bird guy is cool. is he gonna walk like the pterodactyls in jurrasic park? that's the vibe i am getting. i think the scene i am thinking of is from jurassic park 3, like a waddle walk pulling itself forward with the wings. in this case no wings but arms have a wing-y feel
320 x 180 is modern aspect ratio but lowres enough to feel retro.
@bzt Technopeasant's CC-By submission has been rectified and all is kosher with that one.
Their current conundrum is with this submission which is derivative of "US Government Works"
Those images came from Wikimedia, but ultimately got there from the Defense Visual Information Distribution Service. That particular arm of Uncle Sam has a copyright statement here.
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so what about my derivatives of old maya artwork?
the dolatic dreams submission is clearly public domain everywhere, as it was published before copyright law existed. the old books i am using are clearly public domain for me, but possibly not public domain for everyone....
where does this leave me with licensing my derivatives? i am making what i consider substational modifications that, in my opinion, constitutes an entirely "new" creative work based on art from a copyright-expired book from 1914. am i wrong? not wrong to use it for my game, but wrong to submit my art after the game is done?
and if i cannot submit this artwork because it is derivative of a copyright expired in the u.s. work, would i then be safer to use the maya codices that bzt mentioned earlier as the basis for my derivatives?
the reason i started a different thread is primarily because my use case has nothing to do with government works.
yeah i knew what you meant, that was what i meant too! they are better as a sprite sheet than cut up and zipped.
thank you kindly for the input. i do realize none of us are lawyers, but it is helpful to hear other perspectives to help make the best choices
well on that subject, the maya hieroglyphs i derived this from were reproduced in a book published in 1914. and from reading the book it appears the reproductions come not only from codices but from the author's own studies of stelae and maya ruins. from all my research all works published in the united states before 1927 (except sound recordings) are now in the public domain in the u.s. so the reproductions made by morley sylvanus griswold were under his copyright when the book was published in 1914. the copyright was never renewed by his estate. he died in 1948. 1948 + 70 = 2018, so in most places in the world this work would be public domain anyways.
cornell university library says anything published in the u.s. before 1927 is public domain. but world wide the situation is different. however, if a given work was never published in a given country, then the copyright law of that country does or does not apply? i am doubtful that the book was published in afghanistan for instance, though i've not researched publication of this particular work beyond the u.s.
@bzt "Only if you're about to distribute your work outside of the U.S., otherwise it's enough if you only comply with the U.S. law. But in this case you can relax, these are public domain worldwide for sure."
by putting something on the world wide web i am defacto distributing my work world wide, right? i not asking this question to be a contrarian or sarcastic.
since my derivatives come from someone who made reproductions in 1914, and not derivative of aforementioned codices, i am beholden to the copyright of the book containing the reproductions published 1914. i am safe in the u.s. for sure, but i still have doubts about my rights in regards to "world wide" distribution.
@bzt "But in this case you can relax, these are public domain worldwide for sure."
ocd = never relaxed ;P
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