yah i guess you could make visual novels and some stuff with only ai generated content. but your not going to get animated characters, functional pixel art, or much that is coherent. atleast i have not gotten after spending hours playing with different algorithms.
and i bet there are grannies out there trying to make games. atleast i hope so.
but to put real artists out of work? i dont think so. the way these algorithms work is imitative. if real people stop making real art then the algorithms will have nothing new to imitate.
my biggest issue is that i believe the datasets that these algorithms use (and from a tech perspective, the ai algorithm and training dataset are two separate things) are stealing from artists. just because someone posted their painting on artstation or somesuch, does not give tech-bros in the "disruption" industry the right to put their work, without permission or credit, in a training dataset. the art that is created from that dataset is a derivative work of stolen art.
ai art is cool. it is also cool to be able to play old retro games without owning the original cartridge, or to use public roadways but not pay taxes. "cool" does not make right or legal.
i think it is most useful for "sketching" out concepts and ideas. produce game ready art? i have spent numerous hours playing with multiple different ai art algorithms, researched and tested prompt engineering, and i have never generated anything that was useful to me out of the box with no editing needed on my part.
on your topic subject though, is AI gonna be the end of artists? i don't think so.
it's another tool. a tool that can be used to make concept art quickly.
freelance concept artists aren't owed the opportunity to make art as a job.
however, concept artists whose art has been scraped without their permission are owed at least credit for their work being part of the dataset used to produce AI art. in my opinion they are owed much more, but we have probably discussed this ad nauseum at this point.
thing is though, we kinda "humanize" these algorithms by calling them ai. they are not artificially "intelligent" so much as they are algorithms trained using real people's creative works. you can study rembrandt, whereas a dataset that "learns" what elements of art are reminscent of rembrandt doesn't "know" anything.
the post is pretty old, and TinyWorlds hasn't posted new stuff on oga since 2018.
on a side note, i read your article. im really interested in ai art, and make use of it in my personal projects. we have been having some interesting discussions lately since it is a new world, and there are some real issues as far as contributing ai-generated art to oga, datasets made by "scraping" copyrighted images from the web.
thats very nifty
how much prodding and prompt tweaking did it take for you to get that poem? did it just spit it out as is?
yah i guess you could make visual novels and some stuff with only ai generated content. but your not going to get animated characters, functional pixel art, or much that is coherent. atleast i have not gotten after spending hours playing with different algorithms.
and i bet there are grannies out there trying to make games. atleast i hope so.
but to put real artists out of work? i dont think so. the way these algorithms work is imitative. if real people stop making real art then the algorithms will have nothing new to imitate.
my biggest issue is that i believe the datasets that these algorithms use (and from a tech perspective, the ai algorithm and training dataset are two separate things) are stealing from artists. just because someone posted their painting on artstation or somesuch, does not give tech-bros in the "disruption" industry the right to put their work, without permission or credit, in a training dataset. the art that is created from that dataset is a derivative work of stolen art.
ai art is cool. it is also cool to be able to play old retro games without owning the original cartridge, or to use public roadways but not pay taxes. "cool" does not make right or legal.
i think it is most useful for "sketching" out concepts and ideas. produce game ready art? i have spent numerous hours playing with multiple different ai art algorithms, researched and tested prompt engineering, and i have never generated anything that was useful to me out of the box with no editing needed on my part.
they look cool
on your topic subject though, is AI gonna be the end of artists? i don't think so.
it's another tool. a tool that can be used to make concept art quickly.
freelance concept artists aren't owed the opportunity to make art as a job.
however, concept artists whose art has been scraped without their permission are owed at least credit for their work being part of the dataset used to produce AI art. in my opinion they are owed much more, but we have probably discussed this ad nauseum at this point.
ai generated art does produce results that look alot like photobashing.
https://opengameart.org/content/orchestral-and-world-music-pack
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https://opengameart.org/content/shmup-dragon
i cannot recommend gdevelop enough for beginners. the visual scripting is the best i have seen in any engine.
thing is though, we kinda "humanize" these algorithms by calling them ai. they are not artificially "intelligent" so much as they are algorithms trained using real people's creative works. you can study rembrandt, whereas a dataset that "learns" what elements of art are reminscent of rembrandt doesn't "know" anything.
take this https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/70USRzX6Jb2rrNOIoq3l for reference. no prompt engineering, just "boticelli's birth of venus"
the dataset knows what that painting is. it doesn't make something in the "style" it attempts to reproduce the actual painting.
the post is pretty old, and TinyWorlds hasn't posted new stuff on oga since 2018.
on a side note, i read your article. im really interested in ai art, and make use of it in my personal projects. we have been having some interesting discussions lately since it is a new world, and there are some real issues as far as contributing ai-generated art to oga, datasets made by "scraping" copyrighted images from the web.
https://opengameart.org/forumtopic/should-there-be-a-whole-section-speci... is probably the most recent discussion on the forum, and some discussion has happened in the discord.
this particular thread is probably not the place for us to talk about ai art, but i would love to hear your thoughts on it so i made a new thread here https://opengameart.org/forumtopic/ai-generated-art-discussion
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