it does seem it has gone quiet on this, so it does make me wonder whether there is enough interest. but i shall post my proposals of what am thinking of doing soon, I have reached out to PreciousRoy, but i have had no response so he must still be busy doing his masters.
if someone wants to do a banner, that would be great, i did do one, so if not il just use that.
very good!, thanks for your submission, reminds me of 'Soccer Physics', theres no need to post on a forum though, it comes up on the latest art thread, think this thread is for games. :)
I'm not sure how it will run at the moment, I am taking notes on what has been said so far. There's a bit to consider, so hopefully I can come up with something that will be ok for all that will take part. One thing I'm pretty sure I won't do is a "theme", I'm more for keeping it as open as possible so that all artwork on OGA is considered for a game. Il draft something up and post it soon, I still want to give preciousroy the opportunity to jump on this thread incase he has set one up and ready to go.
any suggestions anyone, then please post here for me to look at. :)
Perhaps we could "bump" the active forum topics so it stays at the top or at least seeable, but it does say at the very top of the site "latest blog post", maybe just make the font bigger? Your doing a great job Danorder, thank you.
have you heard anything more about a game jam? Is it something that we still want to do? I can't find the post about who was going to do it, il put something together if that went cold. :)
edit: sorry il move that question to another post.
thats good to know, and if you can use the preview file as it is without the need to download it then thats ok in my mind too, i dont have a problem with that, however, i do think uploading a preview and submitting a file for downloading are two different things and should be treated as such, they are seperated when making a submission, upload file for preview, and then upload the files you have for download, why is that if its got to be the same? why have a preview upload? and after reading the Submission guidelines both have to be "useable", although i mentioned logo use, im not that bothered if they are used or not, i was just hyperthetically speaking, by doing so have i made that preview unusable so im breach of the submission rules?
I dont know the answer to the license really on previews, only that a preview is a preview and should treated as such, and its the files that should be the used with the license advertised, but if it works for some to use just the preview image then i suppose the license advertised is what it is.
the files made available for download would be used under the license shown. if the image is not in the files then i would say it can't/shouldn't be used for whatever reason as the author has not made it available.
in some cases the author may feel it needs something in the preview to make there work stand out or show a mock up, if its there own work i don't see a problem with it, maybe they could/should say whats not available from the preview before others download, if its not there work then that asks the question whether they have the permission to use it or not.(more uncertainty, and work for admins).
I have my "CG" logo on my previews, but i wouldn't say i would have that public domain, its my identity, i cant think why anyone would want to use that, but if we are thinking we can take the preview images under the license shown and edit them as we feel fit even though the author has not made that particular file available via the download, then its something i need to think about. if someone did use it on work that was offensive i wouldn't have a leg to stand on if i ask them to remove it. im not the only one who does that here.
* Batteries not included
* Not a flying toy
What about artists that advertise there services on the forum pages with preview images as attachments? theres no license on them at all and i have seen many downloads of them, if they don't metion that they are not to be used, then are we to assume they are public domain? (sorry maybe another discussion but think it needs mentioning)
I have looked at the project and it sounds great, even as an idea, an open world rpg around super heroes created by original characters, however
"This projects goal is to generate buzz for an idea that will eventually lead to a pitch to the very people who would sue me?"
In my opinion.
The time it takes to create and develop something like this would be very time consuming, and if you are to pitch it then it pretty much would have to be spot on, I'm not sure anyone would be willing to commit to a project like this when the likelyness is you won't get the license from Marvel to get the go ahead anyway, even if your game is really good and marvel like it, they still probly won't grant you a license to use it, and the reason being is because someone else would already have a license to use it, which would not allow another developer to create a game that would potentially put their game project at risk should there be a financial commitment to it.(and there will be a financial commitment to it) thus could be a lawsuit from either marvel themselves or the license holder, although it's more likely a "cease and decist" notice should you continue without a license, even so, all that hard work and effort put in for it not to be allowed would be devasting.(personal experiance)
if you created your game based on original characters then you might get a better response from artists, fan based stuff is great, but it comes with risks, if you do continue I wish you well, and the advise I would give you is be cautious.
it does seem it has gone quiet on this, so it does make me wonder whether there is enough interest. but i shall post my proposals of what am thinking of doing soon, I have reached out to PreciousRoy, but i have had no response so he must still be busy doing his masters.
if someone wants to do a banner, that would be great, i did do one, so if not il just use that.
:)
very good!, thanks for your submission, reminds me of 'Soccer Physics', theres no need to post on a forum though, it comes up on the latest art thread, think this thread is for games. :)
I'm not sure how it will run at the moment, I am taking notes on what has been said so far. There's a bit to consider, so hopefully I can come up with something that will be ok for all that will take part. One thing I'm pretty sure I won't do is a "theme", I'm more for keeping it as open as possible so that all artwork on OGA is considered for a game. Il draft something up and post it soon, I still want to give preciousroy the opportunity to jump on this thread incase he has set one up and ready to go.
any suggestions anyone, then please post here for me to look at. :)
Unless @precouisroy still wants to do it.:)
Perhaps we could "bump" the active forum topics so it stays at the top or at least seeable, but it does say at the very top of the site "latest blog post", maybe just make the font bigger? Your doing a great job Danorder, thank you.
have you heard anything more about a game jam? Is it something that we still want to do? I can't find the post about who was going to do it, il put something together if that went cold. :)
edit: sorry il move that question to another post.
thanks medicinestorm for that post, i think that clears it up, well it does for me anyway.
"prefer that the preview images not to be freely licensed, unless the author explicilty says they are"
i agree with that this, but im not going to make a song and dance about if someone uses the preview asset instead of the download.:)
"the license is per submission,not per file"
thats good to know, and if you can use the preview file as it is without the need to download it then thats ok in my mind too, i dont have a problem with that, however, i do think uploading a preview and submitting a file for downloading are two different things and should be treated as such, they are seperated when making a submission, upload file for preview, and then upload the files you have for download, why is that if its got to be the same? why have a preview upload? and after reading the Submission guidelines both have to be "useable", although i mentioned logo use, im not that bothered if they are used or not, i was just hyperthetically speaking, by doing so have i made that preview unusable so im breach of the submission rules?
I dont know the answer to the license really on previews, only that a preview is a preview and should treated as such, and its the files that should be the used with the license advertised, but if it works for some to use just the preview image then i suppose the license advertised is what it is.
:)
My thoughts:
the files made available for download would be used under the license shown. if the image is not in the files then i would say it can't/shouldn't be used for whatever reason as the author has not made it available.
in some cases the author may feel it needs something in the preview to make there work stand out or show a mock up, if its there own work i don't see a problem with it, maybe they could/should say whats not available from the preview before others download, if its not there work then that asks the question whether they have the permission to use it or not.(more uncertainty, and work for admins).
I have my "CG" logo on my previews, but i wouldn't say i would have that public domain, its my identity, i cant think why anyone would want to use that, but if we are thinking we can take the preview images under the license shown and edit them as we feel fit even though the author has not made that particular file available via the download, then its something i need to think about. if someone did use it on work that was offensive i wouldn't have a leg to stand on if i ask them to remove it. im not the only one who does that here.
* Batteries not included
* Not a flying toy
What about artists that advertise there services on the forum pages with preview images as attachments? theres no license on them at all and i have seen many downloads of them, if they don't metion that they are not to be used, then are we to assume they are public domain? (sorry maybe another discussion but think it needs mentioning)
:)
I have looked at the project and it sounds great, even as an idea, an open world rpg around super heroes created by original characters, however
"This projects goal is to generate buzz for an idea that will eventually lead to a pitch to the very people who would sue me?"
In my opinion.
The time it takes to create and develop something like this would be very time consuming, and if you are to pitch it then it pretty much would have to be spot on, I'm not sure anyone would be willing to commit to a project like this when the likelyness is you won't get the license from Marvel to get the go ahead anyway, even if your game is really good and marvel like it, they still probly won't grant you a license to use it, and the reason being is because someone else would already have a license to use it, which would not allow another developer to create a game that would potentially put their game project at risk should there be a financial commitment to it.(and there will be a financial commitment to it) thus could be a lawsuit from either marvel themselves or the license holder, although it's more likely a "cease and decist" notice should you continue without a license, even so, all that hard work and effort put in for it not to be allowed would be devasting.(personal experiance)
if you created your game based on original characters then you might get a better response from artists, fan based stuff is great, but it comes with risks, if you do continue I wish you well, and the advise I would give you is be cautious.
:)
There's also this one from LPC, might help.:)
http://gaurav.munjal.us/Universal-LPC-Spritesheet-Character-Generator/
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