According to data protection law I have the legal right to that. You don't offer a method for that, so I just edited my contributions, but now since you banned my account because of that, I want my account and all contributions deleted, since I don't want to be associated with any of that anymore. I write from a second account, since you do not provide any other way to contact you.
MEDICINESTORM
Your duion account has been deleted. There are no contributions associted with you or your account. There may be derivatives uploaded by other users where you are mentioned as attribution. I cannot remove those unless there is a licensing conflict. Did you want to dispute the license or request takedown of any derivatives of your work?
I don't know the circumstance of the disabling of your account this time (I re-enabled your account several weeks ago and have not seen you post since) but I assume one of the other admins had reason for it. I'm sorry to see you go and I'm sorry you never took me up on my offer to hear you out via PM.
I'm sure it's too late now, but for future reference, contributions can be taken down by clicking the "request deletion" button on the submission in quesiton. This will immediately remove the submission from the site, although you will still be able to view it from your own account. (it will have a black background instead of blue, and this is not the case with your "duion" submissions since the "duion" account has been deleted, not just blocked.)
As for account deletion, I don't know why there isn't a better option for requesting account removal. I'm sure we'll address that in OGA3. Other users have also had trouble with that as discussed here: https://opengameart.org/forumtopic/request-for-account-removal
and, as I said in that thread, I'll be happy to remove accounts upon request, just PM me. (Although I guess you were re-banned at the time and couldn't PM me?)
Did you want the duion2 account deleted as well?
Duion2 Apr 1 The "request deletion" button does not exist anymore and I will keep the duion2 for a while to communicate. MEDICINESTORM Apr 1
The request deletion buttion is definitely still present. I even verified it from a non-admin account.
I'll leave your duion2 account then.
MEDICINESTORM Apr 1
Just FYI, I may only be leaving the duion2 account temporarily. I need to talk to the other admins about the purpose behind the most recent ban. If the ban was perminant, creating a secondary account doesn't innoculate you from the ban.
Someone is messing with me, which is the reason I don't want to be here anymore, I did not start the trouble.
MEDICINESTORM Apr 1
Duion, I respectfully disagree. I didn't ban you this time, but the reasons I banned you in the past was for starting trouble.
You were not banned because we wanted to censor you (your comments were left up at the time. If we wanted to censor you, why wouldn't we just delete your comments?)
You were not banned because you were spreading the truth and we didin't want to hear it.
You were banned because you were insulting, unconstructive, and starting trouble. You can believe you're the victim of abusive admins if you like, but ask anyone who's actually read the stuff you say to people and you'll be the only one on the planet who thinks that.
Of course you censored me, you banned me, so I could not respond. You did not read what I would have answered, since I could not answer, but I would have answered it if I could. "unconstructive", "negative" etc are all subjective and when questioned you ban me for questioning it, so I'm fed up with this bullshit.
And now you are messing with me, by stealing the request deletion button from me.
MEDICINESTORM Apr 1
Now is your chance to respond. Tell me what you would have answered. You COULD have answered as soon as your temp-ban expired, but you didn't say anything new. I won't be giving you a place to shout insults at everyone, but you can tell me here. I'm listening.
As for the request deletion button, no one is stealing buttons from you. Please reread what I wrote above: "I'm sure it's too late now, but for future reference...". You don't have a request deletion button on your duion2 account because your duion2 account hasn't submitted anything. Are you assuming you would see a delete button on every submission on the site? Everyone would be able to delete other people's submissions. It only shows on your own account's submissions. My point was: "Why didn't you just click that button before you were banned?" You're saying you got banned because you tried to delete your submissions? None of them had been deleted at the time of your most recent ban. If you had, it would show up in the log. There were ZERO delete requests on your Duion account before I deleted it today.
How am I supposed to know that? I thought it is a general button, since the FAQ says if someone uploads your content without your permission you can request deletion and it would be impossible to do that if you could only request deletion on your own stuff.
And I don't say what I would have said, since even my non insults are seen as insults so what would a real insult be then?
Well now we have a problem, since my contributions are listed as submitted by anonymous, which is not true and I don't want them here. It is also problematic since people cannot attribute to the now nonexistent creator of the asset nor verify the source, since there is no way to check where it is from or who uploaded it. So now you need to delete them as well somehow.
MEDICINESTORM Apr 2
Ugh. Yes, we do have a problem. I seem to be the only admin still willing to deal with you and I'm starting to see why. READ ALL OF THE FOLLOWING VERY CAREFULLY
Let me guess: Instead of ASKING me to remove your account, you decided to do something to a bunch of your submissions that would prompt people to flag your account as "compromized"? There's a removal request form in the FAQ (Which you knew about because you used it to start this conversation!), there's references to how to get your account removed in the forums, and I even directly offered to you to talk to me via PM before all this. I'm sure you'll claim you didn't know how to get your account removed, but I'm not buying it anymore.
Instead of clicking the Deletion button (which you knew was there before you were banned and chose not to use!) on the submissions you didn't want here anymore, you manipulated the submissions in a way that got your account flagged as "compromized". Which caused those submissions to be isolated for rollback. Good job, Duion; you played yourself.
If you ACTUALLY wanted to have your stuff removed, this wouldn't be an issue, but since you decided to post something that looked like a hack, you accomplished the opposite of what you intended. I don't know what you posted since the changes were rolled back.
It looks more and more like you were never concerned with your association with OGA or personal privacy at all. It looks more and more like what you REALLY wanted was to screw as many people over as you could. So... here's how it's going to be:
We have NO obligation to do anything for you at this point.
Your personal information has been removed. Your right to be forgotten has been satisfied. All remaining materials you're referring to are not of a personal nature.
The information you had on this site to begin with was not personal. The only information that could be said to be personal data was your email address. Even then, it was pseudonym based. Regardless, it has been removed.
The GDPR and "Right to be forgotten" laws have no jurisdiciton over a US based site. The EU can block OGA from your access, but they cannot compel OGA to remove anything.
The content (that I know of) you shared here has been released CC0. No one is required to attribute you. Even if they were, the license you released it under cannot be revoked. As far as you're concerned, it might as well have been deleted, but some anonymous user re-uploaded all of them per the terms of the license you chose.
Since you wanted no personal information association with anything on this site, you got your wish. None of the isolated submissions mention you at all.
I MIGHT be persuaded to help you fix your problem even though I have NO OBLIGATION OR BENEFIT in doing so. Since I don't know the urls of the submissions (I can't just look at the Duion profile to see what's left, the profile is gone) I have to MANUALLY remove them one at a time. You've made being kind to you a pain in my ass. If you want to contest the presence of a submission, you will submit the URL of that submission to me here in this message thread ONE AT A TIME. I'll review it, and remove it. If you try to rush me, we're done.If you insult me or are rude in any way, we're done.If you use this site as a soapbox for shouting your drivel, we're done. How about it, Duion? What's that first URL?
It would have been much more easy for you, if you just had deleted them all to begin with, I know that this function exists and you intentionally did not do it that way.
MEDICINESTORM 10:17 am
You haven't been paying attention. Yes, it would have been great if YOUR INTENTIONAL MANIPULATION OF THE SUBMISSIONS HAD NOT ISOLATED THEM FOR ROLLBACK. It would have been much more easy for you if you had just requested deletion on them all to begin with, you know that this function exists and you intentionally did not do it that way.
Step 1. Reread this thread. Step 2. Realize you screwed yourself. I didn't screw you over. You screwed you over and made helping you difficult. Step 3. Don't bother responding. WE'RE DONE.
Congratulations, Daft-Freak, and thanks to all the participants! Trophies have been awarded.
@Daft-Freak: I've gotta say I really appreciated you going the extra mile making not one, but twothree functional demonstration sites of the designs ("Site Design: Light & Dark" by Daft-Freak, "OpenGameArt.org Dark theme" by DarkAgeGames, demo'd by daft-freak)
I think this challenge was a pretty big success; I'd be proud to have OGA use any one of the site layouts submitted. There really are some good ideas in these. Looking forward to incorporating all the best features. :)
Pretty fun. I didn't get to the end, I don't know what level I made it to, but it was the one with the balloons and the heavy dart projectile. No clue how to get past the last turret. Intuitive gameplay is a little sparse.
On that note, I don't feel it's the best game design to require the player find invisible objects with zero prior clues that they may need to do so to proceed.
Of course you're allowed to post links. Although you might get a lot more people visiting your site by submitting these songs here on OGA, and linking to your site in the submisison description. Submissions tend to get a lot more attention than forum posts. :)
Oh, don't leave out the details :) tell the whole story:
MEDICINESTORM
Your duion account has been deleted. There are no contributions associted with you or your account. There may be derivatives uploaded by other users where you are mentioned as attribution. I cannot remove those unless there is a licensing conflict. Did you want to dispute the license or request takedown of any derivatives of your work?
We always take down art if the author requests it, even if the law doesn't obligate us to do so. See https://opengameart.org/content/faq#q-takedown
I don't know the circumstance of the disabling of your account this time (I re-enabled your account several weeks ago and have not seen you post since) but I assume one of the other admins had reason for it. I'm sorry to see you go and I'm sorry you never took me up on my offer to hear you out via PM.
I'm sure it's too late now, but for future reference, contributions can be taken down by clicking the "request deletion" button on the submission in quesiton. This will immediately remove the submission from the site, although you will still be able to view it from your own account. (it will have a black background instead of blue, and this is not the case with your "duion" submissions since the "duion" account has been deleted, not just blocked.)
As for account deletion, I don't know why there isn't a better option for requesting account removal. I'm sure we'll address that in OGA3. Other users have also had trouble with that as discussed here: https://opengameart.org/forumtopic/request-for-account-removal
and, as I said in that thread, I'll be happy to remove accounts upon request, just PM me. (Although I guess you were re-banned at the time and couldn't PM me?)
Did you want the duion2 account deleted as well?
Duion2 Apr 1 The "request deletion" button does not exist anymore and I will keep the duion2 for a while to communicate.
MEDICINESTORM Apr 1
The request deletion buttion is definitely still present. I even verified it from a non-admin account.
I'll leave your duion2 account then.
MEDICINESTORM Apr 1
Just FYI, I may only be leaving the duion2 account temporarily. I need to talk to the other admins about the purpose behind the most recent ban. If the ban was perminant, creating a secondary account doesn't innoculate you from the ban.
Duion2 Apr 1
No does not look like this for me: https://duion.com/files/temp/doesnotexist.jpg
Someone is messing with me, which is the reason I don't want to be here anymore, I did not start the trouble.
MEDICINESTORM Apr 1
Duion, I respectfully disagree. I didn't ban you this time, but the reasons I banned you in the past was for starting trouble.
You were not banned because we wanted to censor you (your comments were left up at the time. If we wanted to censor you, why wouldn't we just delete your comments?)
You were not banned because you were spreading the truth and we didin't want to hear it.
You were banned because you were insulting, unconstructive, and starting trouble. You can believe you're the victim of abusive admins if you like, but ask anyone who's actually read the stuff you say to people and you'll be the only one on the planet who thinks that.
Duion2 Apr 1
Of course you censored me, you banned me, so I could not respond. You did not read what I would have answered, since I could not answer, but I would have answered it if I could. "unconstructive", "negative" etc are all subjective and when questioned you ban me for questioning it, so I'm fed up with this bullshit.
And now you are messing with me, by stealing the request deletion button from me.
MEDICINESTORM Apr 1
Now is your chance to respond. Tell me what you would have answered. You COULD have answered as soon as your temp-ban expired, but you didn't say anything new. I won't be giving you a place to shout insults at everyone, but you can tell me here. I'm listening.
As for the request deletion button, no one is stealing buttons from you. Please reread what I wrote above: "I'm sure it's too late now, but for future reference...". You don't have a request deletion button on your duion2 account because your duion2 account hasn't submitted anything. Are you assuming you would see a delete button on every submission on the site? Everyone would be able to delete other people's submissions. It only shows on your own account's submissions. My point was: "Why didn't you just click that button before you were banned?" You're saying you got banned because you tried to delete your submissions? None of them had been deleted at the time of your most recent ban. If you had, it would show up in the log. There were ZERO delete requests on your Duion account before I deleted it today.
Duion2 Apr 1
How am I supposed to know that? I thought it is a general button, since the FAQ says if someone uploads your content without your permission you can request deletion and it would be impossible to do that if you could only request deletion on your own stuff.
And I don't say what I would have said, since even my non insults are seen as insults so what would a real insult be then?
Duion2 Apr 2
Well now we have a problem, since my contributions are listed as submitted by anonymous, which is not true and I don't want them here. It is also problematic since people cannot attribute to the now nonexistent creator of the asset nor verify the source, since there is no way to check where it is from or who uploaded it. So now you need to delete them as well somehow.
MEDICINESTORM Apr 2
Ugh. Yes, we do have a problem. I seem to be the only admin still willing to deal with you and I'm starting to see why. READ ALL OF THE FOLLOWING VERY CAREFULLY
Let me guess: Instead of ASKING me to remove your account, you decided to do something to a bunch of your submissions that would prompt people to flag your account as "compromized"? There's a removal request form in the FAQ (Which you knew about because you used it to start this conversation!), there's references to how to get your account removed in the forums, and I even directly offered to you to talk to me via PM before all this. I'm sure you'll claim you didn't know how to get your account removed, but I'm not buying it anymore.
Instead of clicking the Deletion button (which you knew was there before you were banned and chose not to use!) on the submissions you didn't want here anymore, you manipulated the submissions in a way that got your account flagged as "compromized". Which caused those submissions to be isolated for rollback. Good job, Duion; you played yourself.
If you ACTUALLY wanted to have your stuff removed, this wouldn't be an issue, but since you decided to post something that looked like a hack, you accomplished the opposite of what you intended. I don't know what you posted since the changes were rolled back.
It looks more and more like you were never concerned with your association with OGA or personal privacy at all. It looks more and more like what you REALLY wanted was to screw as many people over as you could. So... here's how it's going to be:
We have NO obligation to do anything for you at this point.
I MIGHT be persuaded to help you fix your problem even though I have NO OBLIGATION OR BENEFIT in doing so. Since I don't know the urls of the submissions (I can't just look at the Duion profile to see what's left, the profile is gone) I have to MANUALLY remove them one at a time. You've made being kind to you a pain in my ass. If you want to contest the presence of a submission, you will submit the URL of that submission to me here in this message thread ONE AT A TIME. I'll review it, and remove it. If you try to rush me, we're done.If you insult me or are rude in any way, we're done.If you use this site as a soapbox for shouting your drivel, we're done. How about it, Duion? What's that first URL?
Duion2 Apr 2
https://opengameart.org/content/uberpack-1
Duion2 Apr 2
https://opengameart.org/content/konserian-highlands-set
Duion2 Apr 2https://opengameart.org/content/konserian-swamptree MEDICINESTORM Apr 2
ONE at a time, Duion. I haven't gotten to the second one yet.
MEDICINESTORM Apr 2
Done. next one?
Duion2 Apr 2https://opengameart.org/content/example-terrains MEDICINESTORM Apr 2
Done. Next?
Duion2 Apr 2
https://opengameart.org/content/exampleterrainssource
Duion2 Apr 2
https://opengameart.org/content/7dfpsterrains
Duion2 Apr 2
https://opengameart.org/content/UebergameMainMenuButtons
Duion2 Apr 2
https://opengameart.org/content/SpaceBackgrounds
Duion2 Apr 2
https://opengameart.org/content/miscGuiElements
Duion2 Apr 2
https://opengameart.org/content/miscGlassTextures
Duion2 Apr 2
https://opengameart.org/content/rubberducks-details-as-gimp-brushes
Duion2 Apr 2
https://opengameart.org/content/miscBloodDecalParticles
Duion2 Apr 3
https://opengameart.org/content/macarena
Duion2 Apr 3
https://opengameart.org/content/terrainsasphaltpack01
Duion2 Apr 3
https://opengameart.org/content/terrainsdirtpack01
Duion2 Apr 3
https://opengameart.org/content/terrainsforestmulchpack01
Duion2 Apr 3
https://opengameart.org/content/terrainsgrasspack01
Duion2 Apr 3
https://opengameart.org/content/terrainsgravelpavementsoilpack01
Duion2 Apr 3
https://opengameart.org/content/terrainsrockpack01
Duion2 Apr 3
https://opengameart.org/content/terrainssandpack01zip
Duion2 9:51 am
We have to hurry a bit, since there are a lot to go:
https://opengameart.org/content/barreloil01
https://opengameart.org/content/barreloil02
https://opengameart.org/content/barreloil03
https://opengameart.org/content/barrelplastic01
https://opengameart.org/content/barrelwood01
https://opengameart.org/content/barrelwood02
https://opengameart.org/content/carton01
https://opengameart.org/content/cormetalsheets01
https://opengameart.org/content/baseballbat
https://opengameart.org/content/speakerbox
https://opengameart.org/content/apple
https://opengameart.org/content/combat-knife
https://opengameart.org/content/dandelions
https://opengameart.org/content/fishtail-palm
https://opengameart.org/content/na-hd
https://opengameart.org/content/sad-drone
https://opengameart.org/content/stg44
https://opengameart.org/content/suitcase
https://opengameart.org/content/takeyga-keyboard
https://opengameart.org/content/trillium-ovatum
https://opengameart.org/content/uglyklotzhouses
https://opengameart.org/content/flag01
https://opengameart.org/content/flagstand01
https://opengameart.org/content/futuristicammobox01
https://opengameart.org/content/genericcrate01
https://opengameart.org/content/medpack01
https://opengameart.org/content/pallet01
https://opengameart.org/content/pallet02
https://opengameart.org/content/pallet03
https://opengameart.org/content/propanetank01
https://opengameart.org/content/suitcase01
https://opengameart.org/content/weaponbox01
https://opengameart.org/content/weaponcrateold01
MEDICINESTORM 10:11 am
Looks like we're done.
Duion2 10:13 am
It would have been much more easy for you, if you just had deleted them all to begin with, I know that this function exists and you intentionally did not do it that way.
MEDICINESTORM 10:17 am
You haven't been paying attention. Yes, it would have been great if YOUR INTENTIONAL MANIPULATION OF THE SUBMISSIONS HAD NOT ISOLATED THEM FOR ROLLBACK. It would have been much more easy for you if you had just requested deletion on them all to begin with, you know that this function exists and you intentionally did not do it that way.
Step 1. Reread this thread.
Step 2. Realize you screwed yourself. I didn't screw you over. You screwed you over and made helping you difficult.
Step 3. Don't bother responding. WE'RE DONE.
OMG I did miss it. Even better!
Yes. It'll say "Art Challenge" even though this is a Game Jam. If Spring is cool with that, I'll add it right away.
Congratulations, Daft-Freak, and thanks to all the participants! Trophies have been awarded.
@Daft-Freak: I've gotta say I really appreciated you going the extra mile making not one, but
twothree functional demonstration sites of the designs ("Site Design: Light & Dark" by Daft-Freak, "OpenGameArt.org Dark theme" by DarkAgeGames, demo'd by daft-freak)I think this challenge was a pretty big success; I'd be proud to have OGA use any one of the site layouts submitted. There really are some good ideas in these. Looking forward to incorporating all the best features. :)
Pretty fun. I didn't get to the end, I don't know what level I made it to, but it was the one with the balloons and the heavy dart projectile. No clue how to get past the last turret. Intuitive gameplay is a little sparse.
On that note, I don't feel it's the best game design to require the player find invisible objects with zero prior clues that they may need to do so to proceed.
Yaaay!
Anything in particular you would like on the front page announcement for this jam?
AAAAH! It's perfect for what I'm doing!
I love you for this, bluecarrot.
@anon: I always recommend this attribution method: https://opengameart.org/content/faq#q-how-to-credit
I also like it. :)
Of course you're allowed to post links. Although you might get a lot more people visiting your site by submitting these songs here on OGA, and linking to your site in the submisison description. Submissions tend to get a lot more attention than forum posts. :)
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